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Sunday, May 30, 2010

egidia mercer grey

http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=PED&db=bevangenealogy&id=I57227


this is a very complete tree that needs to be input.

http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=PED&db=bevangenealogy&id=I57227

GOES BACK TO ADAM!!!

Gilbert Grey

Full family tree:

http://histfam.familysearch.org/pedigree.php?personID=I40776&tree=Dodge

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Elizabeth England & Silas Morphew

Y-Dna Marker Tests for Different Morphew Descendants



To date (January 2009), two Morphew descendants have had their y-dna tested and their results are posted at http://www.familytreedna.com under the Morphew surname. 35 out 37 y-dna markers matched proving their relationship.



Their most recent possible common ancestor should be J. Morphew (~1725 - <1783) and their descendant lines were:



1- J. Morphew (~1725-<1783), 2- Silas Morphew ~1752-1807, 3- Uriah Morphew/Murphy ~1780->1840, 4-Hiram Morphew/Murphy ~1815->1860, 5-Abijah F. Murphy 1847-1888, 6-William Robert Murphy 1877-1945 and on for 7 generations



1-J.Morphew (~1725-<1783), 2-James Morphew ~1750-1829, 3-Joseph Morphew ~1771->1820, 4-James Morphew 1805-1871, 5-Rev. William H. Morphew 1829-1912, 6-Riley H. Murphy 1853-1935 and so on for 8 generations.



Y-Dna marker comes from the y-chromosome and only males can pass this on. This makes for an excellent test confirming Morphew lines.



Adult Locations for Silas and Elizabeth England



Silas Morphew + Elizabeth England lived in the following locations, some still being speculative.



1775 Chatham County, N. C: Marriage of Silas Morphew to Elizabeth England.

1783 Guilford County, N.C: Guilford County Quakers mention Silas has moved.

1785/86 Surry County, N.C: tax lists

1790 Burke County, N.C: "Silas Murphy" on U.S. Census list with the Englands.

1807 Burke County, N.C: "Silas Murphey" recorded death near Morganton.

1810 Wilkes County, N.C: Elizabeth Murphey near sons Silas and Uriah.

1814-1823? Knox County, Tn: Children marry here: Silas, Obediah, and Jennie.

1830 Roane County, Tn: Elizabeth Murphey - head of household on U.S. Census.



Details about Silas and Elizabeth Morphew – 1775 to 1807



Silas married Elizabeth England at Chatham County, N.C. in 1775. Why Chatham County has been the source of much speculation, but it has not be researched yet. John England was clearly living in Rowan County, N.C. in 1768 (tithable record) and in the newly divided off Surry County in 1771 (tithable record). In fact, what were both doing in Chatham? Arlie Morphew speculated that John England, father of Elizabeth, traveled back and forth to his father, William England, in Chatham County.



Silas Morphew was considered a Tory by someone, at least enough to attempt to hang him. We don’t know the year, which could tell us more of the story. The years could be from 1775 to 1781. After the war, Tory lands and property were seized. In Wilkes County, Benjamin Cleveland hunted down his enemies for hanging. Cyrus Grubb states Silas was saved when a woman held him up by the legs till help came. In this case, Silas needed to leave the area for a safer site and, perhaps, we will find him living in an unusual location. He does give us one clue. The Quaker Church records at Deep River (Guilford County) note the following:



Deep River, Guilford County, North Carolina Quaker Meeting on their 7th month 1783: “Silas Murphy having been under the care of the preparative meeting, now requests to be joined in membership which this meeting grants (From Quaker microfilm records at Guilford Collage).” The Quaker Encyclopedia indicated he had moved.



The 1785 Surry County, North Carolina taxables list "Silas Murphy" and 1786 "Silas Murphew," but Silas has no acreage.



The 1786 Census of Surry County, N.C. lists Silas Murphy in Captain Wright’s district and shows 1 male 21-60 years of age, 3 males under 21 and above 60, 2 white females all ages. His brother James is also listed here.



The 1790 Burke County, North Carolina Census records Silas “Murphy” and in the same county is Daniel England, John England Sr., John England Jr., Joseph England, and Thomas England, all related to his wife Elizabeth. In July 1790, Silas Murphey is recorded present at the Wilkes County estate inventory sale of Youngs Coleman. His sister, Sarah, was Coleman’s widow. In 1791, a Yakin County Land Grant Map (formerly Surry County) shows “Silas Morphew” with a land grant near Forbis Creek (details not known). This may be seen at http://www.nealancestry.com/scncmap.htm .



In 1795, Silas is mentioned in the will of John England, father of Elizabeth, which was probated at Burke County. It gives to Silas’s wife “one calf, one cow, no more, no less.” The wording suggests that John England had disapproved of Silas, but the reason is not known. Silas was probably living in Wilkes County at the time.



The membership list at Three Forks Baptist Church (formerly Ashe County, now Watauga County) includes Elizabeth Morphew. The list covered the years 1790 to 1810. If Silas was living there, he entered no land in the South Fork of New River area. The following is recorded:



"On 10 November (1807), Robert Craig, Esq. of Morganton, (died) of a sudden illness. Also Messrs Silas Murphey, John Bryant, Jonathon Duckworth, __ Moor, and Mrs. Mary Bradley, in the vicinity of the same place. All of whom were called in the course of four days of the disease which has proved so epidemical of late, in every quarter of the union." TM, Thursday, 10 December 1807, Volume 3, page 4, as entered in "Abstracts of Vital Records from Raleigh, North Carolina Newspapers 1799-1819," Volume One.



Silas' death was confirmed in the 1810 Wilkes County Census which lists Elizabeth Murphy head of the household, with possible names added:



Elizabeth Murphey - 1810 U.S. Census of Wilkes County:

2 females 0-<10; 1 female 10-<16; 2 females 16-<26 - Rhoda, Jennie, Peggy,Kizzy, and Sallie.

1 female 45+ - Elizabeth Morphew

3 males 16-<26 – Silas, John M., Aaron (Where is James?)



Comment: Note that one son is missing here and Uriah Murphy/Morphew has his own Wilkes Census. Some of Elizabeth's daughters seem rather young and that raises questions.



Last Years of Elizabeth Morphew (1808 – 1830+)



After this point in time, the trail of Elizabeth England Morphew becomes hard to follow. Until recently, she was thought to be the oldest female in the 1820 and 1830 household of Silas Murphy, who lived in the Burke County, North Carolina. Evidence is increasing that this Silas belonged to James Morphew (born ~1750) and that the correct Silas Murphy/Morphew, Jr. had migrated to Tennessee to become a Private in the War of 1812-1814. An 1830 Census of Roane County, Tennessee records an Elizabeth Murphy who must be our Elizabeth England Morphew. She was head of the household and was born between 1750-1760. This same 1830 Census lists Obediah Murphy and John McCarroll, who married Permelea Morphew. Elizabeth does not appear again, but by 1840, Uriah Murphy is now in the same county.



The Old Morphew Cemetery in Watauga County, North Carolina

It is not known where Silas or James were buried. However a very old Morphew cemetery is located in Watauga County, North Carolina, on a mountain top along the eastern bank of the South Fork of New River. Readable grave stones belong to descendants of Silas, including Cyrus Grubb, who furnished some of the earliest clues about the clan. As one inspects the rows of Morphew stones, the dates become older as one walks east. In the eastern-most gave stones, the writing is no longer legible, and one wonders if these belong to Silas and James and even Mary Morphew, wife of the first known Morphew who probably immigrated to America.



The cemetery is located 7-8 miles east of Boone, North Carolina, and approximately 3 1/2 miles north. Drive east from Boone, N.C. along route 421/221 to the church center called Laxon (still in Watauga County), turn Northwest on old state highway road for 0.7 miles, then north on county road 1353 (Hardin Road). As one drives north, a small creek will meander along the west side of the road. This creek suddenly turns west to empty into the South Fork of New River. Not far from this point may be seen the cemetery on top of a high hill along the west side of the road.



Letter by Mrs. Marion M. Ingram of Robbinsville, N.C. (1971)



“I am very much interested in the problems of the Morphews during and following the War of Independence. Because it was so much earlier than the Civil War, accounts are dim. As fond as I am of Silas, the first, I do not believe that the story is quite true, at least the hanging. The story my father told me is so vividly impressed upon my memory.”



“My father never told any of these gruesome tales about his forebearers, so when my brother, as a young boy, came home from Ash County and Watauga where he had been visiting, he had heard even wilder tales concerning the adventures of the Morphews and Greers and Grubbs. What Cleveland’s men had failed to do, the Yankees did! And to cap it all, the Grubbs told him that one Morphew, Silas, had been hanged! We had something at last, on the Wiggins and Deveres – none of them could match a tale like the one we had about Silas. When my father heard that my brother was telling this tale about Silas Morphew being in some big battle and getting hanged and rescued, he told us that it was not true. The reason I remember it so vividly, I was so disappointed! My father said that Silas Morphew and his wife were visiting cousins. Rumors were going around that rewards were being offered for the capture of Tory Spies. Some rough necks, my father called them, came to the house and accused young Silas of being a spy. They marched him out across the clearing and into the woods. His wife and cousin followed along begging and crying and entreating hard and fast, then they began to interrogate him. To each question they asked, Silas is reported to have answered with a riddle. Finally the men went off and left Silas, and no wonder, bested as they were at every turn with the riddles. Despite not being hanged, Silas seems to have emerged from his ordeal as a hero, for, according to my father, that spot where Silas was tried was named Riddle Gap. (Uncle Jim Morphew told me the men heard a noise and left Silas.) There is a Riddle Creek in Watauga County, a Riddle Gap in Yadkin, and a place once called Riddle in Surry.”



A Second Letter by Mrs. Marion M. Ingram (1971)



Greer Medicinal Herbs by Leah Greer Barrow





“The Morphews and Greers got their “cash money” by gathering medicinal herbs and roots high up in the mountains and carrying them many miles to the trading centers. In later years, several of the Greers and Morphews established a huge crude drug plant.”



Leah Greer Barrow added that her grandfather John U. Greer was born in Ashe County, North Carolina in 1867 and died 1972 in Pike County, Kentucky. Lean "grew up digging Mayapple and Bloodroot for my grandfather. He wouldn't let us dig the gensing. He would pay us a little money and then he would lay it out to dry. He then took it to his cousin for money. ...I ran into a girl in Aiken, South Carolina with the name tag of Greer. She married the grandson of R.G. Greer in Pikeville, Kentucky that had the herb business. She told me that they were back in business. My nephew lives in our home place and he sells the ginseng around $450.00 a pound. His first cousin had an herb company in Pikeville, Kentucky, and it is still in operation today." (e-mails courtesy Leah Greer Barrow, 9 and 10 April 2006).



Letter of Arlie C. Morphew, April 30, 1971

The England Link to Chatham County, North Carolina



“A descendant of John England, Bess A. Machtley of West Chester, Pa. has quite a book on the Englands, and I will quote a ...reason (why) John England went to Chatham County, N.C. before moving on to Burke County by 1790. Mrs. Machtley is a descendant of Aaron England, son of John England.”



“William England, born Tyrone Ireland, came with the first Scotch-Irish immigration to Chester County, Pa., and was the first known England to settle in America. He located in Somerset County, Maryland, after marrying 1st to Elizabeth Wilcox or Wilcoxin. One son was born - William England. He married 2nd to Mary Watson, daughter of William Watson, Gloucester, N.J. There were four sons to this 2nd marriage, all born in Maryland: Daniel, Joseph, Samuel, and John England. With the tide of immigration moving south, he took his family in 1760 to Chatham County, N.C. where he received a large land grant. (The reason John went to Chatham County to see his father before going to Burke County). Of course Silas went along to get Elizabeth, but was back in the vicinity of Deep River Quakers. Very shortly thereafter, Mrs. Machtley says there is some doubt about John England’s religion, maybe none, but we do know that Elizabeth was a member of Three Forks Baptist Church. Mrs. Machtley says she lived down the road from the land of Goshen Quaker meeting house and cemetery.”



In the same letter, Arlie changes the subject: “Another Morphew has popped up – Jesse Morphew, who died in 1810 and had 2560 acres of land in one tract and another 2500 acres, purchased in 1809, all in White County, Tennessee. On May 15, 1811, an inventory of his estate was made by Uriah Morphew and presented to the courts on that date (will book A-10). Now this is something else - for who was Jesse Morphew and why would Uriah Morphew be inventorying his estate?”


http://www.planetmurphy.org/pagebuild.php?pagebody1=MorphewSi3.htm

Christopher Stokes & Prudence Ivy

Here cometh the story:

Back in England in the early 1600s, there were two brothers, Thomas and Christopher Stokes. Christopher was the elder, inherited the manor of Titherton Lucas, and married Prudence Ivy, while the younger Thomas sailed off down the Avon to go adventuring in Bermuda. Meanwhile, Christopher and Prudence had (at least) two sons, again duly named Thomas and Christopher -- the first after the paternal grandfather and the second after the father.

This time Thomas was the elder and stayed home to mind the manor and marry Elizabeth Young while his younger brother Christopher sailed off to go adventuring in Virginia. However, oral tradition has it that Christopher lacked the funds to finance his venture [Thomas was stingey?] so his SISTER-IN-LAW hocked her dowry to pay for his pioneering efforts. [My cousin has verified in old English records that Elizabeth Young Stokes did indeed sell her dowry at the appropriate time.] In gratitude, Christopher promised that in each subsequent generation at least one child would be named in her honor.

In the first couple of Virginia generations, they seem either to have used the name Elizabeth or -- perhaps more likely -- several children died before reaching maturity and have hence not been recorded by history. But beginning with Sylvanus [son of William, who was a son of Christopher] the name Young appears as one of his sons, and the name remains used widely even today as the trademark of the line of Christopher of Titherton Lucas.

My own fanciful twist on this story -- and please don't tell my cousins! -- is that our own dear Chris made off not just with the dowry, but with the woman herself! I have no direct proof of this, but Christopher's wife of clear record was named Elizabeth -- no last name known -- and there is also clear record that brother Thomas back in England did later take a second wife -- with no trace as to whatever became of his wife #1, Elizabeth Young.

Hope this is of some help to you, and good luck in your quest!

http://genforum.genealogy.com/stokes/messages/1398.html

captain thomas mumford

Thomas Mumford.

The first Mumford name in Virginia was Thomas Mumford I. He was one of 120 settlers who arrived in the colony in the John & Francis and the Phenix about February 1608/9. The “First Supply,” as they called this tiny fleet, dropped anchor at Jamestown only about nine months after the first colonists arrived there on 13 May 1607. Mumford was among the small band of fourteen explorers who accompanied Capt. John Smith on his exploration of Chesapeake Bay in 1608. Thomas also accompanied Captain Smith on his second voyage leaving Jamestown 20 July and returning 7 September 1608. Smith mentioned Thomas frequently in his narratives. Mumford was a member of the Second Virginia Company of London in 1609 and so he may have returned to England. Back in Virginia, he acquired three patents for land, all near the Nansemond River. They were for 200 acres on 5 March 1646/7 , for 700 acres on 24 October 1650 , and for 300 acres on 18 February 1664/5. This Thomas Mumford is likely the ancestor of the Mumford and Munford families of Virginia. Some early records depict the name “Mountford.” Because of the similarity of names, we believe that Thomas was the father of two children who later appeared in the records of York and Gloucester Counties: Thomas <7236.htm> [7236.1] and Edward Mumford <7236.htm> [7236.2].

Friday, May 28, 2010

Cecily...more

http://www.reynoldsfamily.org/line17/chris_31.html

Cecily Reynolds

The Sister of Christopher Reynolds of Isle of Wight VA?
by Susan E. Clement and Sybil R. Taylor
© 1992 Reynolds Family Association

Reynolds History Annotated (1475-1977)
Compiled by William Glasgow Reynolds
Copyright 1978 by W.G. Reynolds
Rockville MD: Mercury Press, 1978

Except where noted, the following is verbatim from book except for "..." (material which has no value as a source of proof) with reference at end of sentence or paragraph to which it pertains, and W.G. Reynolds' annotation. Roman numerals after a person's name supplied by W.G.R. to differentiate between individuals with same name.

The first Reynolds to reach the New World was an 11 year old girl named Cecily.

Cecily arrived at the VA Colony in Jamestown Aug 1610 aboard the Swan [1]. She came without her parents but under the auspices of several near relatives of Dorsetshire England.

[1] Hotten, Lists of Emigrants to American 1600-1700, p 209; Nugent Cavaliers and Pioneers, p XXX: "Her arrival was a year before 1611, the year that gave birth to the King James Version of the Holy Bible..."]

The name "Cecily" was an hereditary one [2].

[2] Ray, Index and Digest to Ray's NC Historical & Genealogical Register, p 135.

Her mother's maiden name had been Cecily Phippen before she was married around 1594 to Thomas Reynolds (II) [3]

[3] "Thomas Reynolds (II) had a near relative, William Reynolds (I) who attained distinction from a bequest in William Shakespeare's will, whereby he bequeathed 25 shillings 'to William Reynolds, Gent. to buy him a ring.' This will was dated Mar 1616 and was proved at Stratford-on-Avon England Jun 1616." See Bentley, A Handbook of Shakespeare, p 59].

...Her [Cecily's] father, Robert Phippen, sprang from grandfather Joseph Phippen whose wife was Cecily's great-grandmother Alice Pierce. Alice Pierce's forebears have been traced to 1475, which means that this line of Reynolds is now documented on the distaff side back half a millennium to the times of Christopher Columbus.

[4] The lineage of this Pierce family is set forth in Ray, Index & Digests to Hathaway's NC Historical & Genealogical Register, p 135. See also Appendix E [Pierce Lineage Chart, which see later in this article.]

A grandson of Alice Pierce's brother was a Capt William Pierce (III) who, with his wife Joan, served as chaperon to young Cecily Reynolds after her voyage to VA [5].

[5] Ray, Index & Digest to Hathaway's NC Historical & Genealogical Register, p 135. "She lived in their home where she met and married the first of her several husbands, Thomas Bailey."

Thomas Bailey was a member of the Governor's Guard at Jamestown.... Young Bailey became a victim of malaria. He left his widow with a young daughter, Temperance Bailey, who had been born in 1616 [6].

[6] Ibid. Note 5. "It is believed that Thomas Bailey's father was Samuel Bailey."

In accordance with the custom of the Colony, Cecily promptly remarried [7].

[7] "A male protector was an absolute necessity for the safety of the early female settlers in VA. For this reason we frequently find widows marrying within a few weeks or months after the death of their husbands, their newly acquired mate joining with the widow in the administration upon her deceased husband's estate...We find many 'much married persons' among these early immigrants." Hathaway, NC Historical & Genealogical Register, Vol I, No 2, p 310.

Her 2d husband was Samuel Jordan (I), a cousin of her mother, who had been previously married in England, and after the death of his first wife migrated to America. He came to VA on the 1610 voyage of the "Sea Venture" [8].

[8] "The detailed history of this Jordan migration will be found in Ray, Index & Digest to Hathaway's NC Historical & Genealogical Register, p 135. "The 'Sea Venture' left England in 1609. Sir Thomas Gates and Captain William Pierce (III) were fellow passengers with Samuel Jordan (I). The ship ran aground in West Indies and did not arrive at Jamestown until 1610." See Boddie Colonial Surry, p 21-22.

He settled first at "Jordan's Journey" near the confluence of the Appomattox and James Rivers; later added large holdings on the south bank of the James at Jordan's Point, where he built a house called "Beggar's Bush" named after a popular London theatrical performance at the time. [9]

[9] Samuel Jordan's home on the south bank of the James "he had named 'Beggar's Bush' after a popular play at the time..." in London. Hale Virginia Venturer, p 81.

. . .

As the 'Mayflower' was unloading in New England back in 1620 ... Cecily and Samuel Jordan, along with the surviving stockholders of the first Virginia Company were honored with the label of "Ancient Planters," given legal title to their lands and various immunities and privileges in connection with their use, as rewards earned by their perseverance in establishing the first permanent beachhead of English colonization on American soil...

Nugent, p 226: To all to whom these presents shall come etc Greeting in our Lord God Everlasting. Know yee that I George Yardley Knight, Governor and Capt. Genll. of Virginia etc. by verture of the great Charter of orders and lawes concluded on in a great and Genll. Quarter Court by the Treasurer Councill and Company of Adventurers and planters for this first Southern Colony of Virginia (according) to the authority granted them by his Majtie under the great Seal) and by them dated at London the Sixteenth of November 1618 and directed to myself and the Councill of Estate here resident, do with the appraobation and consent of the same Councill who are joined in Condicion with mee Give and grant to Samuel Jourdan of Charles Citty in Virga. Gent, an ancient planter who hath abode ten years Compleat in this Colony and performed all services to the Colony that might any way concern him etc and to his heirs and assignes for ever for part of his first genll. dividend to be augmented &c, 450 acs. on his personal right, etc. and out of the rules of Justice, equity and reason and because the Company themselves have given us president in the like kind of the personall claim of Cecily his wife an ancient planter also of nine years continuance, one hundred acres more and the other 250 acs. in recompence of his trans. out of England at his own charges of five servants, namely John Davies, who arrived in 1617 for whose passage the sd. Samuel hath paid to the Cape. Mercht., Thomas Matterdy bound apprentice to sd. Samuel by indenture in England dated 8 Oct 1617; Robert Marshall brought out of England by Capt. Burgrave in May 1619, at the costs of sd. Samuel; Alice Wade the same year in the George, etc., & Thomas Steed in the Faulcon in July 1620; and maketh choice in 3 several places: one house & 50 acs. called --ilies Point [Bailies Point] in Charles hundred, bordering E. upon the gr. river, W. upon the main land, S. upon John Rolfe and N. upon the land of Capt. John Wardeefe; 2ndly, 1 tenement containing 12 acs., etc., encompassed on the W. by Martins Hope, now in tenure of Capt. John Martin, Master of the Ordinance; & 388 acs. in or near upon Sandys his hundred, towards land of Temperance Baley, W. upon Capt. Woodlief, etc. To have etc. Yielding & paying to the sd. Treasurer & Company & Provided, & c.
Given at James City 10 December 1620 and Signed
George Yardley
Fr. Pory, Secr.
This patent certifeid to the Treasurer. Lawr. Hulett. At a Genll. Ct. held at James Citty Oct. 20, 1690, Present: The Right Honble. Francis Nicholso, their Maj. Lt. Richard Bland, the patent being for 450 acs. in Chas. Citty Co. granted to Mr. Samuel Jordan in 1620, which is truly recorded. Test: R. Beverley, by W. Soward, Cl. Genll. Ct. P.B. No.8, p125.

Footnote 13: "The story of the massacres at the lower plantations on the James is recounted in Boddie, Seventeenth Century Isle of Wight County, Virginia, pages 35 and 36."

Footnote 14: Hale, Virginia Venturer, pages 81-82: "Far up the James at Jordan's Point, stalwart old Samuel Jordan, one of the original Burgesses of the first Assembly, having escaped an early attack and being warned of what was happening by a colonist who rowed over the river to his plantation, gathered together a few stragglers, fortified... 'Beggar's Bush' and lived on there without loss of live despite assaults on the enemy and carnage among his neighbors."

Footnote 15: Ray, Index and Digest to Hathaway's North Carolina Historical and Genealogical Register, page 135: "But not long after that (the 1622 massacre) Samuel Jordan died... Cecily's third husband was William Farrar (I); they had two sons: John and William (II), the last of whom became the sire of the famous Farrar clan of Virginia." [19]

[19] Ibid. Note 18 {Ray, Index and Digest to Hathaway's North Carolina Historical and Genealogical Register, page 135}.

She next married Peter Montague; they had 7 children during their 23 years of marriage. When Peter Montague died in 1659, Cecily married, Thomas Parker by whom there were no heirs." [22].

[22] Ray, Index and Digest to Hathaway's North Carolina Historical and Genealogical Register, page 135.

Beyond this point, the history of 'Aunt Cecily' becomes obscured by the ascendancy of the Independents or Puritans. In that transition, the old plantation aristocracy of which she was a part lost power in the affairs of the Colony. But her original chaperon in America, Captain William Pierce (II) wound up on the winning team in that shuffle. So did her brother, Christopher Reynolds (III)." [23]

[23] For a capsule description of the transition that cast the parliament and the King of England at loggerheads during this period, see White, Concise History of England, pages 93-97.

Thus, Aunt Cecily Reynolds-Baily-Jordan-Farrar-Montague-Parker was able to end out her days in calm assurance that her title "Number One Wife and Mother of America" was abundantly secure." [24]

[24] Ibid. Note 22. {Ray, Index and Digest to Hathaway's North Carolina Historical and Genealogical Register, page 135}.

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