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JOHN14 NORRIS III (JOHN13, JOHN12, THOMAS11, THOMAS10, GEOFFREY9, JOHN8, GEOFFREY7 NORREYS, ROBERT6, JOHN5, GEOFFREY4, GEOFFREY3, GEOFFREY2 LE NORREYS, GEOFFREY1) was born October 20, 1750 in Lunenberg County, Virginia colony, and died Bet. 1835 - 1845 in McMinn County, Tennessee. He married ANN GILBERT Abt. 1772 in Charlotte County, Virginia colony, daughter of SIMON GILBERT. She was born Abt. 1752 in Virginia colony, and died Abt. 1831 in McMinn County, Tennessee.
Notes for JOHN NORRIS III:
John Norris was born in Lunenburg County, Virginia, October 20, 1750. This date was given by him in his Revolutionary War pension application in 1835. He stated he had seen his date of birth in his grandfather Norris' family Bible. He stated he had lived in Lunenburg, Charlotte, and Halifax Counties in Virginia. He was married to Ann, the daughter of Simon Gilbert, about 1772 or 1773. She was born about 1752. They emigrated to Wilkes County, North Carolina, about 1775 and he served during the Revolutionary War.
John enlisted in the company of William Lenoir in 1779. He was captured at the Battle of Camden, later escaping. He re-enlisted in 1780 and fought at the Battle of King's Mountain. He was sent as a nurse to an officer. Upon the officer's recooperation, John returned to Wilkes County. As a result, he was not officially discharged. He farmed in Wilkes County for many years. He was listed in Wilkes County, North Carolina, taxables in 1785 as owning fifty acres of land, and next to him was Ephraim Norris. In 1789, he was in Captain Cleveland's District with fifty acres. He was listed in Captain Tribble's District #8 in 1793.
In the state census 1784 - 1787, John Norris was enumerated in Wilkes County, North Carolina, in Captain Thomas Farguson's District, 1787, taken by William Lenoir, with one male aged 21-60 years, three males under 21 and above 60, and three females of all ages. In a book called, Land Entry Book, Wilkes County, North Carolina, 1778-1781, by Mrs. W. O. Absher, is the following excerpt:
1047 21 June 1779-Thomas Ellison e. 50 ac on N fork of Beaver Creek called Longfork said
creek..(Thomas Ellison marked out; JOHN NORRIS written in)..
1693 10 March 1780-Ephraim Norris e. 50 ac fork Beaver Creek, joining JOHN NORRIS' upper line on both sides creek..
From the book, Deed Book C-1, Wilkes County, North Carolina, Deeds and Grants-1782-1803, by Mrs. W. O. Absher, is the following articles:
87 20 Oct 1795..Between James Jackson and Abijah Fairchild..58 lbs 100 ac S fork Lewis
88 Fork..at first narrows above George Elmors...
JOHN NORRIS) James Jackson
557 5 Dec 1798..N. C. Grant No. 1650.. Thomas Land..200 ac branch Beaver Creek William Ellisons corner..Ephraim Norrises line..JOHN NORRISES corner..
578 1 Nov 1796.. Between JOHN NORRIS and Richard Farguson..60 lbs 50 ac part 400 ac Granted..torn...torn...by State; Thomas Harben by deed to said Linvil (or Sewel) E side Beaver Creek..
Joel Branham) John X Norris
280 14 Nov 1800.N.C.Grant No.2026..JOHN NORRIS..50 ac N Beaver Creek called Long Fork..William Allisons corner..Ent.21 June 1779
After their children were grown, between 1800 and 1820, John and Ann moved to Greenville District, South Carolina. In 1825, they emigrated to McMinn County, Tennessee. Ann died there about 1831.
In 1835, John attempted to receive a pension on his service in the war. He could not prove his enlistment was factual since he had no discharge. At the age of 85, he still had a good memory. He gave specific dates of places where he had marched and fought. But is was to no avail. His application was rejected. (R7700). He died in McMinn County, Tennessee. He died sometime between his last application December 8, 1835, and the last note from his attorney in his papers, December 1, 1845. John Norris was buried beside Ann in an unmarked grave in McMinn County, Tennessee.
The following statements were made by John Norris in his first affidavit for a war pension on September 9, 1835:
State of Tennessee)
McMinn County ) County Court September Session 1835
On this 9th day of September 1835 personally appeared in open court before the worshipful Court of Pleas and Quarter Sessions for McMinn County aforesaid John Norris a resident of the county of McMinn aforesaid aged about eighty five years who being first duly sworn according to law doth make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the Act of Congress passed June 7, 1832. That he entered the service of the United States under the following named officers and served as herin after stated That he entered the service of the United States as a volunteer in the county of Wilkes in the state of North Carolinaon or about the first of August 1779. His officers were Lieu. Joel Lewis, Capt. William Nowels and Col. Elijah Isaacks. Marched to a place called Reases in Burk County N Carolina just before the arrival at that place they were met by the Torries against whom they had a skirmish from there returned into Wilkes County from there marched to the place called the Fox Knobs from there marched tp Linches Creek where they found General Davidson from there marched to a place called the fork of the rivers called Rocky River and Pedee when there was a battle against the British and Torries. General Davidson was wounded there from there marched and joined General Gates and marched to a place called Rugales Mills from there marched towardsCamden and was met by the British and fought the battle called Gates Defeat or Battle of Camden in the roust he was taken prisoner and continued a prisoner for some time when he made his escape and went home after having been in service twelve months he got no discharge his officers having been dispersed or marched off before he escaped from hism confinement Immediately on his return home for it was dangerous times for a whig to be found at home he went turned out volunteer he thinks about the first of September 1780 at Wilkes Courthouse in the state of North Carolina under Capt. William Lennoire Maj Lewis and Col Cleveland marched towards Kings Mountain joined Colonel Campbell, Shelby and Sevier and fought the battle called the battle of King's Mountain he thinks Col Campbell on that day had the principle command Mj Lewis was wounded in the battle and he was sent as a nurse with said Lewis to help take care of him to a Col Watkins after he had staid with him some little time he was dismissed by said Lewis his Major but got no discharge after having been out in service six weeks The first time he believes that he was out in actual service much longer but from old age and the consequent loss of memory he will not be positive but he knows that he was out in service twelve months in his second tour at Kings Mountain he knows that he was out six weeks He was acquainted with Generals Gates Davidson andGraves of the regular lines
He has seen a record of his age in an old bible at his grandfathers and by that reason he was born on the 2oth day of October 1750 in Lunenberg County in the state of Virginia from there moved to Charlotte then to Halifax counties in Virginia then moved to Wilkes County in the state of North Carolina where he had his home during the Revolutionary War from there moved to Greenville district in South Carolina from there moved to McMinn County and state of Tennessee where he now resides and has resided for 10 years. He has no documentary evidence nor does he know of any person by whom he can prove his services as a soldier of the Revolution.
He is acquainted in his neighborhood with Aquila Leatherwood a clergyman and David Cantrell Esq who can testify as to his character for honesty and their belief of his services as a soldier of the Revolution He hereby relinquishes any claim whatever to a pension or annunity except for the present and declares that his name is not on the Pension Roll of the agency of any state Sworn to and subscribed in open court the day as was above mentioned
John his X mark Norris
Aquila Leatherwood is clergyman and David Cantrell residing in the county of McMinn and state of Tennessee hereby certify that we are well acquainted with John Norris who has subscribed and sworn to the above declaration and we believe him to be 85 years of age that he is reputed and believed in the neighborhood where he resides to have been a soldier of the Revolution and we concur in that opinion
Sworn and subscribed the day and year above mentioned
He submitted an amendment to the above declaration December 8, 1835, in which he made the same statements as he did on September 9, 1835. His attorney was Samuel Frazier. A small note was found among the papers of John Norris' pension application from Mr. Frazier with the date December 1, 1845 and the number R7700. John Norris' claim was rejected. He died sometime between December 8, 1835, and December 1, 1845, in McMinn County, Tennessee. It is interesting to note that almost a hundred years later, the list of William Lenoir's company was published and in them were pay vouchers for John Norris.
In the book, HERE WILL I DWELL (The Story of Caldwell County, North Carolina), by Nancy Alexander, is the following excerpt:
A list of William Lenoir's Company of King's Mountain was found among the papers of Peter Thompson, who was also a Revolutionary soldier: 'William Lenoir, Captain; John Parks, Corporal; John Whitaker, Corporal; John Johnson; Pleasant Profit; Alexander Gilreath; David Burn; Charles Hardmark; Bailey Chandler; Devereux Ballard; Hezekiah Barker; Moses Tolliver; Reubin Smether; Jesse Toliver, John Vickas; George Parks;------JOHN NORRISS;------ Joseph Holeman; Charles Reynolds; Thomas Johnson; John Baltrip; William Carter; Travis Alexander; Gabriel Smether; Abraham Hunt; William Jones; Elisha Reynolds; John Townzer; Joseph Pourter; James Reynolds; Jonah Chandler; Daniel Holeman; Lenard Heland.
Also, the following information was found on John Norris' Revolutionary War service, abstracted from original receipts, memo books, and sundry papers from William Lenoir Family Papers #426-University of North Carolina Library, Chapel Hill, NC, January 5, 1977:
9 Nov 1786, SOUTH CAROLINA, LARANCE COUNTY - William Lenoir, Sir, please pay Leonard Keeling our wages that we served under you at Kings Mounatin, signed John Hulen,------JOHN NORRIS------& John Burns. Received my own & above the 24th July 1787 - signed Leonard Keeling.
Unfortunately, at the time that John Norris applied for a pension, he was several hundred miles away from Wilkes County, North Carolina, and most of the men with whom he had served, were long dead. As a result his pension was denied.
Revolutionary War Pension Application, #R7700, National Archives, Washington, D.C.
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