More on the Hatfields... This is CONFUSING.

144. Joseph HATFIELD (69)(1) was born in 1733 in Kentucky. He served in the military in 1776 in Virginia. (70)(71) Joseph Hatfield served as a private in the Virginia Militia and was a spy and an Indian Scout. He enlisted in Russell County, Virginia under Col. Chrisman; served as a Spy under Capt. Thompson at New Gardain; served as a Private under Capt. Dickenson in March on Backmoads Fort; served under Capt. Sevier in the Battle of Kings Mountain; and served under Capt. Scott and various officers as a scout. Joseph had at least three years of service in the American Revolutionary War of 1776.

His wife, Rachel Smith Hatfield, received a widow's pension, record number W-5, B-1, Wt. 26358, 160-55.

The following Declaration which was obtained through the National Archives and Records Service in Washington, D.C. and is quoted as evidence of his service. " I. In order to obtain the benefit of the third section of the Act of Congress of the 4th of July 1836 and the joint resolution of July 7th 1838. State of Tennessee, Campbell County, as, On the Joseph Hatfield served as a private in the Virginia Militia and
was a spy and an Indian Scout. He enlisted in Russell County, Virginia under Col. Chrisman; served as a Spy under Capt. Thompson at New Gardain; served as a Private under Capt. Dickenson in March on Backmoads Fort; served under Capt. Sevier
in the Battle of Kings Mountain; and served under Capt. Scott and various officers as a scout. Joseph had at least three years of service in the American Revolutionary War of 1776.

His wife, Rachel Smith Hatfield, received a widow's pension, record number W-5, B-1, Wt. 26358, 160-55.

The following Declaration which was obtained through the National Archives and Records Service in Washington, D.C. and is quoted as evidence of his service. " I. In order to obtain the benefit of the third section of the Act of Congress of the 4th of July 1836 and the joint resolution of July 7th 1838. State of Tennessee, Campbell County, as, On the 21st day of October 1843 personally appeared before the subscriber, a justice of the peace for said County and State aforesaid, Mrs Rachael Hatfield, a resident of
said County aged eighty years who first being -- sworn according to law on her oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the provision made by the Act of Congress - July 4, 1836 and the joint resolution of July 7th 1838. That she
is the widow of Joseph Hatfield who was a private and Indian Spy in the Virginia Militia in the War of the Revolution. That her husband, the aforesaid Joseph Hatfield entered the service in the county of Rupell in the State of Virginia under Col. Chrisman and
served two campaingns of six months each. The names of his Captains she has forgotten. This service took place before her marriage. She was married to her husband, the said Joseph Hatfield on the 28th day of October 1779 by L. Woley Esgr. After
her marriage her husband was called out to defend the frontier and was marched into service under Captain Thompson at a place called the New Gordain in Rupell County, Virginia and was in the service from March until November with but little intermission.
In this campaign, he served as an Indian Spy. The length of time her husband was in the service she is unable to say. He was also under Captain Scott at different times and was considered one of the best marksman on the Western Frontier. II. She further
declares that taking into count the year her husband, Joseph Hatfield, served before the marriage and the time after the marriage, it would be three years and at least one half of the time an Indian Spy. She further declares that she has not kept a family record of the births of her children owing to her husband being no scribe and she is a widow at this time and that her husband the aforesaid Joseph Hatfield departed this life August
29th 1832." End of Quote. Sworn and subscribed before me the day and year before written.
Her Rachael X Hatfield Mark
Signed: Allen C. McDonald. J of P. He died on 29 Aug 1832. The Hatfield name is an English name that became very famous in the United States after teh 1880's when members of the family became involved in a feud with members of the McCoy family. The Hatfields are famous for other reasons for the family has produced State Governors, Senators, Industrialists, Doctors, Lawyrers, Clergymen and many other respected titles.
There are many who believe that Joseph Hatfield is not the father of Ale Hatfield because proof has not been found to positively point in that direction. However, most researchers agree that circumstantial evidence does seem to lead in that direction. I have found on page 169 in the book, THE HATFIELDS AND THE McCOYS, by Virgil Carrington Jones, an error which would definitely point to Joseph Hatfield being the father of Ale. William Anderson (Devil Anse) Hatfield is quoted by the Intelligencer Newspaper on November 22, 1889, as saying "My grandfather Valentine Hatfield was born in Russell County, Va. My grandmother, Elizabeth Vance was a native of the same county. Eight boys and three girls were born to them...". Valentine Hatfield was married to Martha (Mattie) Weddington not Elizabeth Vance. Elizabeth Vance was first married to a Smith and next was married to Joseph Hatfield (his first wife). If she had not been known to Devil Anse Hatfield in his family as a grandmother, how else could he have named her as such in this quote. Instead of saying that she was his great great grandmother, he mistakenly said she was his grandmother. I feel that this shows proof that she was a grandmother but four generations back instead of two.
Since Devil Anse Hatfield, most of his generation, and previous generations were illiterate, the only way they had of recording family history was by word of mouth. It would seem logical that the knowledge of Elizabeth Vance as a grandmother is positive proof that she and Joseph are direct ancestors and could be confused as to what generation she was connected. I have found in my thirty odd years of family tree research, that any name given to me out of context of generation, can usually be found to belong in the family close to the generation in question. I feel that this true in this case and helps to prove that Joseph Hatfield (Revolutionary War soldier), and his first wife, Elizabeth Vance are the parents of Ale Hatfield who married Elizabeth Young. Joseph's second wife, Rachael Smith was the widow who received a pension for his war service.
There have been many who have joined the DAR and SAR as decendents of Joseph Hatfield by showing that he was the father of Ephraim & Ale Hatfield.

In "The James Corbin and Ale Hatfield Lineage" by Kenneth Emanuel Corbin, 1978, there is a great amount of information on the of the history and genealogy of the descendants of James Corbin (1793 - 1875) and Ale Hatfield (1778 - 1841). However, on page 114, he quotes a grandson of Ale Hatfield from the "Memorial and Biographical
Record" of Prominent Settlers of Butler, Polk, seward, York and Fillmore Counties of Nebraska, by George A. Ogle and Co., 1899 on page 650, "Dr. Thomas J. Hatfield, a leading dentist and prominent citizen of York, Nebraska, was born in Owensburg, Greene County, Indiana, October 14, 1851, and is the son of Armstead and Mary (Richison) Hatfield. The grandfather, Ale Hatfield, was a native of England, and decended from the Roundheads. During his boyhood he came to the new world with his parents and settled in Virginia, where he grew to manhood and subsequently married Miss Nancy Young. During early life they removed to East Tennessee and located in the midst of the Cumberland mountains on the East Fork of the Cumberland River, where the inhabitants were very few indeed."

He was married to Elizabeth VANCE in 1764 in Circa, Tn.

145. Elizabeth VANCE (1) was born about 1742 in Circa, Tn. She died in 1779 in Virginia. Children were:

i. Ephraim HATFIELD I (feud)(72) (73)(74) (1) was born about 1766 in Cambell Co., Tn. Ephraim Hatfield was listed himself in Russell County, VA, in 1788. Since it was the law of the land that any male 21 or over must list himself, his slaves, horses, cattle and property for military purposes, it means that Ephraim was 21 years old that year. However, he did not yet own any property. Ephraim seemingly never owned land in Russell County, and yet appears to be the son of Joseph Hatfield. He married Mary Smith Goff and they had three children, Valentine, Joseph, and Biddy. Bidy was a nickname for Brigeta which was the name of Mary's mother. Her father was Ericus Smith who was in Fincastle and Russell Counties. Also, Ericus and Mary Smith were the parents of Rachael Smith who married Joseph Hatfield after his first wife, Elizabeth Vance, died. Ephraim Hatfield was probably named for the Elizabeth Vance's brother, Ephraim Vance.

Mary died and Ephraim married Annie McKinney Musick, widow of David Musick who was killed by Indians and Annie and the children carried off by them. Ephraim was among those who rescued them. Later they were married and had five children of their own. Ephraim moved to Logan County, W. VA and some of the decendants of his son, Valentine, aided by other relatives and inlaws, fueded with the McCoys in Pike County, KY, just across the creek.
ii. Jeremiah HATFIELD I(1).
iii. George HATFIELD(1) was born in 1770 in Campbell Co, Tn.
iv. Andrew W. HATFIELD(1) was born on 2 Mar 1776 in Cambell Co., Tn.
72 v. Ale or Alexander HATFIELD.

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